Observation: Other Regions

Location: Palmer Creek Rd.

Route & General Observations

Approximately 6 miles up Palmer Creek Road. Area typically slides and covers the road. We arrived and saw the trail was completely wiped out by a massive slide worse than I or my partner had ever seen. It appears there was an older slide already present when the snow from the previous cycle combined with the warmer temps came down carving a massive trench completely down to Palmer creek in the bottom of the valley. Sides of the slide chute were 8′ or higher and glazed ice. Obviously we did not witness this event but wish to advise others of the dangers in this area. We were able to carve a rough trail into and out of the chute and proceeded into the upper valley. Took several hours of digging. Snow pack in the upper valley is not as deep as was expected and very unstable. 4″ or so wind affected crust on top of very deep sugar snow with absolutely no base. Fractures were seen along most slopes. No pits were dug but conditions are obviously hazardous. I wouldn’t advise planning any trips to this area.

Red Flags
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Obvious signs of instability
Recent Avalanches?Yes
Collapsing (Whumphing)?No
Cracking (Shooting cracks)?Yes
Observer Comments

Cracking/fracturing on many slopes all along the valley. Baseless underlying layer with wind crust on top.

Weather & Snow Characteristics
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Clear skies and cool in the shade. Vastly warmer in the sun

Snow surface

Wind crust of approximately 4-5". Perhaps 2" of newer snow from last Saturday on top of crust layer.


Anything below upper layer was suagar snow. No base to it at all. Did not attempt to dig a pit.

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